Expensive contracts, incompetent instructors.
I used to come and watch my daughter and grandkids “train” here.
I was not impressed with their instructors’
martial art skills or teaching. The instructors are nice and friendly, and might have gotten their black belt years ago, but clearly have not kept up their training. No force, no flexibility, no speed, no precision, and don’t care (or don’t seem to notice) when students do a move or technique improperly. The owner, who is a 7th Degree Sr. Master (!) doesn’t seem any better in any of those criteria! He is a good showman, though. (He also came across as a very good salesman!) He can get the parents a kids excited when he’s there, or at “workshops.” Their so-called “teaching” is substandard, no clear curriculum. After more than half a year, and 4 belts later(!) my daughter and grandkids still hadn’t learned (or rather were NOT TAUGHT!) ONE single basic stance or how to execute a *proper* kick! The classes were boring, lots of lecturing and boring stretching (not even real warm up!!!) and waiting for their turn to practice.They were not really taught anything, but were pushed to sign up for expensive belt exams every 7-8 weeks (and passed each time??!!) Then, at each exam, they also had to sit and wait for over a couple of hours and their demonstration of their “skills” was less than a couple of minutes! The tediously long wait ( a real waste of time!!) is due to the large number of “students” the owner got signed up for these exams. This owner does not seem to care about peole’s time as long as he can make money from these belt exams. (I wouldn’t mind if the exam were meaningful or purposeful in anyway, but this was clearly just a money making scheme for the owner). More people registered means more money for him. How else would you explain a new belt every 7-8 weeks and not knowing what has been taught or one good technique to show for belt rank?! Very shady to me!
I am so glad my daughter and grand-children left Newton Black Belt Academy and are training at a REAL Taekwondo school! Don’t wast your money and time at this franchisee Newton Black Belt Academy. Find a real martial art school that actually cares to teach you real Taekwondo and NOT like Black Belt Academy, which is just all about making money off of you through their contracts! (A good rule of thumb, AVOID all contracts!)
Review by Natra Vertigo1 year ago
This place is also known as Newton Black Belt Academy, Surrey Black Belt Academy, and loosely ATA Black Belt Academy. It’s located in Surrey, in the Newton area, the corner of 71 Avenue and 138 St. Apparently the owner had several locations, by different names, so make sure to check the owner of a place before signing up. I wouldn’t be surprised if his other places operate the same way, using the same tactics. It’s a franchise, after all.
More interested in making money than teaching any real martial arts. A big performance with no substance. The owner’s scheme to lure people to trust him and his school in order to increase sales (ei. customers - not students - signing long expensive contracts)
- flaunting his « 7th Degree Master » title;
- HUGE posters of him in his garb and poses, - - countless colourful pictures of kids in « martial arts » poses
- telling kids to “obey your parents” in front of the parents.
In his contract, he exploits the maximum permissible limits of the law - in every way - to have maximum advantage over customers! Do not fall for the 30-day guarantee! In reality, within 30 days, you might only be in class about 8 times. Also, most people are probably new to martial arts and may not know what to expect. The owner counts on that. If you sign a contract for “Basic program”, you can be sure that he and his staff will start pressuring you to “upgrade » to a “more challenging » program! Much more expensive with expensive required ATA gear ( hundreds of $$$). Doles out belts as long as you pay belt exam fees ($70 each, every 7-8 weeks or so). Does not teach any real martial art. The main instructor can not even say if they teach Taekwondo or Karate. Because it’s neither, I guess. Just a bunch of choreographed moves (« forms ») without any real practice. Come and see their black belt students and COMPARE them with black belts from a real school! It’s part of a HUGE franchise which uses its size to protect its franchisees and to help its franchisees make money!
(If the owner were competent enough to teach and to have a real martial art school, why would he choose to be part of this franchise? BTW, this franchise a really bad reputation for its substandard teaching and questionable belt rank promotions, in order to generate large number of customers, and thereby make money on QUANTITY INSTEAD of QUALITY. It’s a belt factory. Their belts do not represent any real skills! Their camouflage belt is a joke - Not recognized by ANY legit martial art organizations (Karate, Taekwondo, Judo, Ju Jutsu, etc.)! Expensive but WORTHLESS! I got 3 belt promotion from this place. Unfortunately, I didn’t realize how terrible this place was until I got my camouflage belt. Yes, camouflage! But I didn’t even know any basic stances, or do any basic kicks correctly, because they NEVER taught me!
I am at a real martial art school now, and I can see how rigorous we train at my new school. Basic stances and correct execution of basic kicks were what I learned at my new school in the first month - and there’s no contracts! Brown belts here demonstrate strength, precision, knowledge, and speed - which is clearly superior than ALL the black belt students (even up to 3rd degrees!!) at Newton Black Belt Academy!!! As I said before, check out real martial schools and COMPARE.
DO NOT FALL PREY FOR THIS SCHEME. AVOID THIS PLACE! AVOID ALL CONTRACTS! (A good, legit martial art school does not need to use contracts to retain students.) Look for a real martial art in the area. Good luck with your journey in martial art!
Review by Maniram Snomi1 year ago
Friendly staff, fun classes, and techniques are being taught in a correct manner and those techniques work! 6 months have passed since I have joined this school, and I must say that I have already gained confidence! That is a great characteristic of the staff members - they help you build confidence! Although I have attended classes for 6 months, my confidence was boosted in only 1 month of training! Children will get to break boards in BBC classes and EVERYONE gets to participate! The children will learn new curriculum in BBC classes! I have learned so much here, and I am looking forward to continuing my martial arts journey here at Newton Black Belt Academy!
ATA Tigers classes (BBC) are great if your child is 4-5 years old because they constantly learn new curriculum in those classes and they get to break tons of boards (everyone participates). Great program for children of all ages and all fitness levels. The staff are so patient with the children. They will encourage your child. It will definitely build your child's confidence. Rigorous training, clear curriculum, and patient instructors who have kept up their training.
During the 3 belt exams I have attended so far, I would say that in the 2 hours, I got a total of about 45 minutes of testing. You aren't waiting for that long because a large group of students will be testing for a while. Great confidence builder, as students are expected to perform the material they learned in 8 weeks in front of everyone. The instructors have very good technique with lots of power and speed - I know this because of that "pop" sound in their uniforms when demonstrating techniques. This is evident in Sr. Master Karpiuk's techniques, as well as all of the other instructors. The instructors will lean towards you being successful in martial arts, thus correcting your technique. They are very observant - they will notice any little mistake! I have learned so much from them because of this.
Students will spend about 5 minutes stretching, then the rest of the class is to practice their techniques which include forms, sparring, self-defense, and board-breaking. Students at this school not only learn proper technique, but they also learn discipline, honor, and integrity.
Also, be warned - the instructors want you to learn real martial arts here, and they will work you HARD! Sr. Master Karpiuk will push you to your full potential, especially if you are in a more challenging program! (Mr. Wilson and Mr. McCann do this to.) Students participate in a number of exercises that improve fitness, flexibility, and proper technique. It is very effective because you get to practice a number of moves with realistic scenarios (to practice a realistic attack). So, if you want to also improve your fitness in addition to improving your confidence, definitely come to this school.
Review by Modburygermantravellers1 year ago
We used to take our grand kids there. It was terrible! The kids weren't taught anything. It was like a VERY expensive 30-min babysitting sessions (plus expensive belt exam fees.) But it's just the dishonesty that bothered me the most. If you are not teaching any real martial art don't advertise your place as a martial arts school!
Our grand children got 3 belt promotions but couldn't even tell us what they had learned (because they had never been taught anything of substance!) It seemed "fun" at the beginning for the kids because it was new, but it got repetitive after a while because all they did was the same thing over and over again! It was clear after a few months that it just a waste of time because the kids were not taught anything! It was just mindless, random repetition!
Here's the kicker. This so-called martial arts school also got the kids locked in a long expensive contract! I told my daughter to just "cut our losses" and leave, find a real school. I am glad she listened! We lost our money (a waste of money when the kids were there, AND the remaining 4 months, but at least we were not wasting our time anymore!)
The kids are happy training at a REAL school now, where the curriculum is clear, and the kids train with a purpose! I wish we had not wasted our money and (the kids'!) time at Newton Black Belt Academy.
A very expensive life lesson, and I hope my review will help others learn from our thousands-of-dollar mistake.
Review by Carmaine Isajeviene1 year ago
AVOID this ATA Newton Black Belt Academy: wants you to sign a contract; continues to pressure you to sign longer and more expensive contracts; belt factory - frequent expensive belt exams, if you pay, you pass! Buddies activities = using your kids to bring in their friends (aka. potential customers) for fun activities, eg. boardbreaking, but if they dont bring in buddies, they dont get to participate and just watch others having fun; boring repetitive classes, mostly talking and stretching, very little practice.
I found this very informative article, by a TKW school in the US. It talks about how to choose a good martial art school by AVOIDING BAD SCHOOLS.
I wish Id found this before signing my contract with Newton Black Belt - which I left anyway because I was just wasting my time and and $$$ not learning anything!
I am training at a real school now.
I hope this article will help you in your research for a good martial art school.
Review by Elizabeth1 year ago
Sitejabber review from Ong Ngoai
My daughter and her kids were at this Newton Black Belt Academy for over half a year, and I used to come and watch.
I was not impressed with their instructors. They might have gotten their black belt years ago but clearly have not kept up their training. No force, no flexibility, no speed, no precision, and dont care (or dont seem to notice ) when students do a move or technique improperly. The owner, who is a Sr. Master, doesnt seem any better in any of those criteria! He is a good showman, though, and can get the parents a kids excited when hes there. But my daughter and my grand-children wanted to learn Taekwondo, not just to be entertained!
After more than half year, and 4 belts later (!!!) they still havent learned (or rather NOT TAUGHT!) one single basic stance or how to execute a proper kick! The classes were boring, lots of lecturing and boring stretching (not even real warm up!!!) and waiting for their turn to practice.They were not really taught anything, but were pushed to sign up for expensive belt exams (and passed each time??!!) At each exam, they also had to sit and wait for over a couple of hours and their demonstration of their skills was less than a couple of minutes! (The owner signs up lots students for exams because it bring in lots of money for him. How else would you explain 4 belts in such a short time and not knowing one good technique to show for belt rank?! Others may say SCAM, I would say, at least, dishonest!
My daughter and her kids are training at a REAL Taekwondo school now, which is the OPPOSITE of Newton Black Belt Academy. They started with a white belt again at their new school. They just had their belt exam and belt promotion last week last week. (Im so proud of them!) It was an hour and they were moving and demonstrating their skills the whole time! No sitting around and waiting for their 2-minute turns. Same with their classes - constantly practicing their skills, really non-stop at this new school. They had a clear curriculum that they must have learned before their belt test. Everything is so transparent and purposeful at their NEW school.
I am so glad my daughter and grand-children left Newton Black Belt Academy! Dont wast your money and time at Newton Black Belt Academy. Find a real martial art school that cares enough to teach you real martial art skills, NOT like Newton Black Belt Academy that is simply there to MAKE MONEY and PRETEND TO TEACH any real martial skills!
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